He was beaten by Ebony Maw, and he needs 10 seconds to stop time, which is more than enough to get one-shot by any of these guys. But you know Loki has to lift his scepter to send blasts, which gives the opponent the chance of what we call aim-dodge! One-Above-All 2. @heiqn: Yeah I can agree with that ill update it, @achillesspawn: I don't think anyone in the below tier other than strange as an answer to her hex or TP though which is why I put her so high, @aystarr: I put her a tier below falcon and hawkeye because I don't think her gear is as good as theirs, falcon has missiles, lasers, flight, etc and hawkeye has explosive arrows which I think put them higher than widow in most fights. Furthermore, his suit hasnt had nearly as many upgrades, which puts a damper on hisupper levels when compared to other armored heroes like Iron Man. Strange, even when he restrained him, couldn't to better than that at that moment. Just like Thor dodging Loki's scepter and Malekith's attack, which is not reacting a bullet but reacting before they send a bullet speed thing! In the same way that he can take TP she can't take a single lightning bolt, mjolnir throw, punch or any other type of attack from him. While Stark cured her, he later built Pepper her own suit of armor that she wore inAvengers: Endgameto become Rescue. Her warping powers weren't connected with the hex itself! You literally just said he did. In Orson Scott Card, Andy Kubert and Mark Bagley's Ultimate Iron Man, it was revealed that due to an accident, Tony's genetic structure was changed in the womb. She was even capable of taking down an interdimensional beast almost by herself. Okay Thor beaten by taser gun twice. She simply dodged her attacks and fought with her in Hand to Hand! Being the adopted daughter of Thanos, Gamora was raised from a young age to be the craziest weapon in the galaxy. 2. I don't know you sound like angry incel, At least AchillesSpawns make actual arguments, I believe we are acutally debating something but scaling her below street tiers is, something else . Kang does some pretty crazy shit in these movies so lets get to it. The best All MCU Movies and Series (MCU) (2023) rankings are on the top of the list and the worst rankings are on the bottom. Agatha is still locked in Westview, where she is doomed to play noisy neighbor, even tho hex is gone! You said he couldn't, and then say BFR doesn't count. Yeah Obedience Disk is Electricity as long as it makes sense to you. Hi all! They are not even FTE, and Thor's fodder asgardian friend dodged 3 of them, Valkyrie also dodged millions of them. First Firmament 7. However, his lack of focus and tendency to go his own way as Teen Groot prevent him fromre-achieving his true potential. Strange that can hurt Thanos, please don't use any portals tho. Modify tier labels, colors or position through the action bar on the right. Also, this is ignoring Thor didn't aim to dodge Malekith who prepared his attack in 99999 years FFS with a lot of hand gestures! increasing numbers don't work here, and in fact, the distance is even shorter than 50 meters! All I said, is that by feats Strange has numerous ways to beat Thanos without the stones. Wanda has no feats I can recall even close to MHS+. And, we are talking about the girl who can do this! These are all better feats than anything in the Team Buster tier did. She is under the reality-warping spell different from Hex itself! There are many ways in which he could have lost if he didn't have the stones. Gamora is the second daughter of Thanos, and she has proven herself to be the stronger of the two. Pov you didn't watch Wandavision, she was literally opening the hex and closing at will during the final battle, straight up warped Agatha, and has already shown transmutation on base level. She forced the entire city to do the same thing in AOU, but pretty much she never made them act like they are living a normal life, and pretty much gave them a daily life routine for each! And as far as I can remember Agatha wasn't shown after that. - Dormammu should be above Celestials, tho both are featless cosmic beings so not much to debate here. Ragdolling is just the funny part of it! Hulk has shown to be capable of staueing Abomination, the same guy who could catch a mach 1 rpg. What! it's headcanon as much as your Wanda is slow glass-canon with zero abilities argument. Well MCU is dominating the 21st Century. Not once did I say he had to hurt him to do it. Gamora, like Drax, possesses increased strength, stamina, and agility, though she is more likely to think of a plan before jumping into the action. How? No. They are also not projectiles! Ego, who couldn't tag random fodders, and Ronan, who can't bust a planet without killing himself belong in the same tier with Celestials and Universe buster Dormammu, or even funnier, you think Watcher and WI Ultron, who can affect multiverse with his punches should belong to the same tier with Ego and Ronan, that's also inconsistent!! Create a ranking for ULTIMATE MCU CHARACTER (250+ CHARACTERS!) Stop bringing fodder feats of her in AOU. The 50 Most Beloved TV Couples of All Time According to Best Life Online, Nostalgic (Early 2000s) Children's TV Shows, Seen It is a new app from the creators of List Challenges. But it's the same logic as yours! You said "your hate about Wanda is unnecessary" clearly you think i hate her. Beating Thanos doesn't necessarily make her more powerful than him. She is slower than Thanos' blade on Atmosphere. . 3. And Captain Marvel is still slower than Thanos' blade by large margin, so she can't even reach Blade speed which is below Subsonic! @achillesspawn: I understand she probably cant create the hex at-will but weve seen her manipulative objects before at-will in episode 7 and manipulate Agatha in the finale. I'm considering Wanda's high tier feats, and they aren't comparable to anyone else in the god tier. Again, still don't even reach that number! Come on now! But even if we put aside this, Wanda can use her TP much better, and from a much longer distance! Wanda's power set is a counter to Thanos. Reality warping is part of her power set and shes more power than the people youve listed. All Thor needs to do to kill her is strike her down with a lightning bolt, and it doesn't even have to be a large one. A Tier - Captain America, Black Widow, And Kate Bishop Steve Rogers is an S-tier hero that is still trapped in A-tier. Press the labels to change the label text. Thor never summoned a lightning with his thought, and if he could he could save his brother from Thanos, or save himself from Maw's cage? Also, you can track what you've seen, want to see, like, or dislike, as well as track individual seasons or episodes of shows. As I've already said he did it against Hela. Held back by having the worst movement in the game, as Cap can only run,. Here Hulk statue Abomination. Firstly he blocked them. She can only beat this guys by catching them off-guard. 90 feet per second = 27 meters per second. First time ive seen Ant-Man in the top tier, thats cool. Thanos is just a better Hulk, no hax and no range abilites. If we go by these Wanda reacted to an explosion by making a forcefield around the fire at the moment it is created, she also stopped bullets. Thanos definitely needs 6 stones to face with Dormammu & Celestials. My point was, even if we don't assume she can't use her powers with the full potential like in the hex, she can still pretty much use reality-warping and teleportation! Especially if you put people with far more impressive powers and better feats like Ebony Maw in mid tier. Comicvine Prefer their favourite characters over On-screen Feats. Wanda, a Glass Canon Fodder with magic was beaten by Hawkeye, Proxima midnight, War Machine, Ultron Sentries, Imprisoned by Iron-man..etcBut here she's god level while those who beat her are street and human level..CONGRATULATIONS COMICVINERS. She's just not god tier. A couple amendments though: 1. Walker was originally just military-trained, though he dosed himself with the Power Broker's super-soldier serum to increase his abilities shortly before he lost his title as Captain America. Scarlet Witchs fragile mindset was the only thing that held her back, as she could have done extreme damage if shed wanted to. Opens up several dimensional rifts in the earth that levitates some of Thanos' troops before having tendrils drag them down and sealed inside, Without the stones Thanos would need plot armour to beat strange. Which is %100 inconsistent! Characters are also ranked within tiers, so the most powerful of each tier is furthest to the left in the group and the weakest is furthest to the right. Especially in combat, she is even slower than that speed. Both those arguments are really just Thanos's plot amour. Proxima Midnight Encounter 2 --> Again sneak attack which is not our topic. Forum Posts. He never send big shields around to transmutate random things! it looks like he took the hit before he can lift down his hammer! Did I say something like that? What If Martha was already sent to another city or even continent! Secondly. I'm taking the distance even longer than it is, for your sake! | MCU Tier List 5,081 views Premiered May 3, 2021 Ranking every Marvel and MCU Character in the biggest tier list video we have done to date! This resulted in his neural tissue being distributed throughout his body, turning him into a super . Just like Maw. Disney+ continued the storylines of a number of characters pastEndgameon series likeWandaVision, which alsoempowered Monica Rambeau. 1 Iron Man 2 Captain America 3 Hulk 4 Thor ADVERTISEMENT 5 Black Widow 6 Hawkeye 7 Nick Fury 8 Ant-Man 9 Dr. The MCU Spider-Man displayed never-before-seen powers where he was able to defeat Doctor Strange by overcoming the Mirror Dimension and escaping his astral form. That's why Spiderman has beaten Doctor strange or those fodders that beat Scarlet witch. Regular vision is stronger than white vision. With Shang-Chi and the. etc. Wanda can easily beat these guys, no doubt! When did Valkyrie dodge millions. Then I asked for feats! He also attacked her from behind! Never said she was a slow fodder, just not fast enough to control. Drag and drop items from the bottom and put them on your desired tier. The hex was still there when Wanda did that to Agatha. It initially seemed as if he could simply watch until The Watcher engaged in a battle against Ultron across the multiverse where he held his own. So we have to assume Thor dodged right? He can create weapons strong enough to destroy Ronans infinity Stone-powered hammer and even entire ships. 1 year ago. However, Ikaris was an exception, who even beat down each one of the Eternals on his own in the films conclusion. Also he could still transmutate him even when he has the gauntlet, or he could transmutate the gauntlet itself if it was that easy. Would someone with mystical powers like Doctor Strange be the most powerful Avenger in the universe, or would someone with nearly limitless brain power like Tony Stark take that title? Because she can read minds with her thoughts! You can include lol. Yes! And if you want, I can even use 100 meters (which is sooo dumb! Same goes for Vision. Fair, but I proved she can do these things much faster than Thor, which gives her the edge, and unlike what you said, not making Wanda the slow one here! This is how comments looks like when you prefer your favorite character over On-screen feats. Do you have any proof it's subsonic? Heart of the Universe 3. you even said both can blitz her! BFR is a viable option, and since it is, it is clear that Dr Strange can beat Thanos, if Thanos doesn't have the stones. He seemed to be unbeatable until his future wife overcame him, although Wenwu didnt fight back due to his love for her. ), but even that can't reach the speed you say! I don't know why these tier lists keep disrespecting her. 18 GAMORA. From the chaos magic of Scarlet Witch to the legendary abilities of Shang-Chi's Ten Rings, MCU's Phase Four brought incredible power in the year 2021. They would lose because the plot deems it so, not because of feats. Sir, there are no thing like "Prime Wanda". On his own, he established himself as among the most powerful Marvel characters overall. You are not using combat feats! Loki has been and always will be my top tier of villains. Part of its success comes from the formulas it has developed. Firstly I never said Thor was more powerful, I said he can beat her and that she not god tier. Thirldy not having immunity to telepathy doesn't make Thor weaker than her. You just stated about Maw beat Dr Strange with time Stone and Concluded that Wanda will beat him too because of thatScarlett Witch was also beaten by Hawkeye in Age of Ultron, by Proxima midnight, War Machine in Civil War. @kevinforgod: Except none of these guys beat her directly, only attacked her from behind, which is not our topic. That shit is not any different than still believing Spider-Man is sub-Captain America level. She was below subsonic level speed in Atmosphere, proven by feats. Having better training and more precise actions as the Wasp, there are several times when she put even her partner to shame. Ajak. And he is portrayed so expertly by Hiddleston it's crazy. Alice Hernandez. If you don't mind, I want to show you how long these distances are. at unknown speeds, but considering he's supposed to be the physically strongest character, i don't see how that's an anti feat. While Pepper Potts has been a part of the MCU sincethe beginning in 2008's Iron Man, she never played a larger role in the superheroics until she was previously enhanced by the Extremis virus in 2013's Iron Man 3. Bruh. Tho it's true her powers are unstable, she doesn't lose control completely, she never did. He never did something like that! Fights have different circumstances, but we have to consider every high-end feat to put characters where they belong! The Falcon and the Winter Soldier was another series on Disney+ that further developed characters from the Captain America franchise like Bucky and Sam Wilson while also introducing a powerful new hero named John Walker, who was chosen by the government to take over as the new Captain America. Mid tier - As mentioned Ebony Maw should be higher, so should be Corvus who beat Vision, and Loki with stone/gungnir who rivaled Thor, and Iron Man who rivaled Thor as well. Iron Man 3 (2013) Iron Man 3 is far and away the most underrated movie in the MCU. Certain characters like the Dweller-in-Darkness and He Who Remains were supposed to be extremely powerful but showed up in a smaller capacity, so its worth looking at those whose feats and attributes were fully fleshed out. The go-to source for comic and superhero movie fans. 1 year ago. How is this calculated ( INT^1.3 + (STR*0.5 )^2 + (SPE*0.5)^2 + DUR^1.6 + (POW + (SPS*SPL))^2 + COM^1.8 ) ^ TIER Super Power Score and Level Shang could also move up too. Wenwus mastery with the Ten Rings is the stuff of legend and more feats might be revealed in future installments that dive into his past. Also Wanda should be above him too, if you don't think Ego can tag a person who can teleport her entire body with thought speed. And Ultron is more powerful than Mjolnir Thor since he was easily overpowering Thor in that movie. Not only is Nebula highly trained along with her sister to become the deadliest woman in the galaxy, but she is also a cyborg who is capable of self-repair and has enhanced strength and abilities to further increase her standing among her teammates on the Guardians. Drag and drop items from the bottom and put them on your desired tier. All the stones are similar in nature. Rhodey utilizes the tech well, but its far from perfect. You literally gave an answer and then said it's invalid. And pretty much consistent, because she can create her Psionic energy with her thoughts! Mighty Thor is on par (if not stronger) than Party Thor. http://3statesapart.com, 10 Most Powerful MCU Characters Of 2021, Ranked, 10 Quotes That Prove Hawkeye Is The Best Avenger In The MCU, 8 Mistakes From The MCU That The Hawkeye Disney+ Series Couldnt Avoid, Hawkeye - 8 Burning Questions About The MCU The Disney+ Series Finally Answered, 10 Biggest Differences Between Sandman In The Spider-Man Movies & Comics. This is the single last frame we saw, before the explosion VFX. -Ego is strong on paper, but on-screen feats he struggled with basic humans like GOTG & Yondu and Sovereign corps, he couldn't tag them for 30 minutes, he was again mind-controlled by Mantis, so by on-screen feats, he is very weak. Have you watched Thor Ragnarok? Moreover, the two other Spider-Men had a range of powers that went from superior agility to extreme levels of strength. it's still fodder because moving milimeter in Mach 4 speed perspective still doesn't make you blitz in FTE speeds, which is what Thor needs here to blitz someone. He could do the same thing against Thanos. Lightning Cloak was never confirmed. She can create her own food and drink right! RELATED:10 Pokemon Who Resemble Avengers & MCU Characters. I never said he did. X = V.t 50/0.75 = 66M/s = 147 Mph 50/1 = 50M/s = 111Mph Still below Subsonic (609 MPH)! Thor never summoned lightning with his thoughts. This is the only part I disagree mostly. Having a similar level of combat training to Gamora, he ends up higher than her on the list just through his drive and his super-strength alone. He can be beaten by other heroes and seems to get knocked down much more than Stark. Otherwise, all he had to do is just look at someone and think of lightning! Wanda also caught Thanos' hand in the air, while Thor couldn't dodge it and was KO'd by that hit! She has a lot of feats! Other Lokis, including Sylvie, Boastful Loki, Classic Loki, among others, all had variations in their powers of magical illusions and outright sorcery. The All MCU Movies and Series (MCU) (2023) Tier List below is created by community voting and is the cumulative average rankings from 2,437 submitted tier lists. From gaming trends to the latest blockbuster anime, DualShockers keeps you ahead of the curve. But a fair debate requires same assumings! Also, I don't see why opening a hex is something impossible for her anymore. 5. She can also open hex anytime, so there is no reason to not believe she can teleport next to the Ego core and turn his core to jelly.